[eclectica]

The Google cache links work for me. Have the Chinese shut it down on your end of the globe?

[Roadblock]

All the links are working for me as well. Very interesting. I would be ironic indeed if p2pnet is being by someone running a "so-called p2p network."

IN MY OPINION - Fastrack and Kazaa suck.

[philgorp]

kazza is a good test for your spyware/virus software

last time i checked austrailia and most other countries allow free speech

[catflap]

eclectica, on May 17 2006, 11:43 PM, said:

The Google cache links work for me.  Have the Chinese shut it down on your end of the globe?
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i'm not in china. what drugs are you on?

you need a credit card to use the cso website. that's not gonna happen as i don't have a credit card.

only one pf the p2pnet links works - a story about nikki hemming with a lot of messages. don't know which one is THE ONE.

the other p2pnet links show the stories were deleted, and there is nothing in any of the cache links that has any info.

This post has been edited by catflap: 17 May 2006 - 06:18 PM

[eclectica]

Well here posted as an attachment is a copy of the cached post for those who can not view it directly. I guess that would make it a cache of the cache?

Anyways thanks to Emma of p2punite.org for breaking the information so that we had more than just speculation to go on. Jon appears to have withdrawn from the grid into Ted Kaczynski's Montana cabin, so it was hard for us to figure out what was going on.

Now for those of you who are surprised that Sharman Networks would do such a thing, it's no surprise to me. DCIA members have always claimed to represent the interests of p2p when all they really do is use the p2p community to rally for their own interests, which is to commercialize p2p. They want to free us from the enslavement of the RIAA, in order for them to become the new slave masters.

Slyck and Zeropaid along with other filesharing sites have in the past been threatened by Sharman Networks for hosting guides and information regarding Kazaa Lite.

Attached File(s)

•  p2pnet.net_8678_39880.htm (35.98K)
  Number of downloads: 58

[Mazer]

No credit card is needed to look at the CSO report, it's a public web site. But just in case you still can't read it here's what it says.

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Case Basics

Date File Opened:  10May2006
Style of Cause:  HEMMING, Nikki v NEWTON, Jon
Location:  Vancouver Law Courts
Level of Court:  Supreme
Class of Court:  Supreme Civil (General)
Initiating Document(s):  Writ of Summons

Parties

DOE, Jane  Defendant
DOE, John  Defendant
HEMMING, Nikki  Plaintiff
INTERSERVER, INC.  Defendant
NEWTON, Jon  Defendant
ROE, Jane  Defendant
ROE, Richard  Defendant
SHARMAN NETWORKS LIMITED  Plaintiff

[catflap]

thanks a lot. this helps a great deal. now i know wtf everyone is talking about.

[rastaX]

Well Ill be damned!

It would seem the last gasp of Kazaa is gonna be trying to screw the P2P community which made them rich. Although I never had any illusions about Kazaa being the least bit altruistic, I have to admit this has caught me completely off guard.................

[SlyckTom]

From p2punite.net:

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First off - we're not a news site.

You are now! Kudos on breaking this part of the story.

[Roadblock]

For myself, Kazaa and Sharman effectively showed their true colors when they added the now infamous secret B3D & Altnet software to anyone's computer who installed Kazaa. I'm not really suprised by this new development. The saying that leaps to mind is "grasping at straws."

[philgorp]

its all just material for the book she's going to write
and cash in on

[Allied]

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That I feel this is kinda big, is an understatement.

Well, I'm sure we all know the history of Kazaa. Their interactions with other P2P organizations. Their business practices. Their development of Kazaa, or lack there of.

But I feel it necessary to say something on this topic. The compulsion is quite overwhelming. While I don't wish to polarize this thread with a rant or flame I can't fight it. If I do manage to kill this thread let me say congrats to all of you that made it so content filled

Alright here I go,

FUCK YOU SHARMAN!!!!!

...I feel much better now.

[philgorp]

[vernarial]

You guys are good.

We should all counter-sue for putting out such a crappy file sharing program.

[Melvin Smiley]

Any chance we can get a move started to delete all references to Kazaa as a program from all P2P sites? I think it will be worth while if some of us push hard for this.

[catflap]

now that we pretty much know what's going on - thanks to p2punite and p2pconsortium - isn't it strange that the trolls on some other sites are nowhere to be seen? i mean, just 2 days ago, they did all they could to bash jon, calling him a sellout and many other unmentionable things, and not even having any facts went on to blame some companies and private people who we know had nothing to do with it.

people are such asses and can't wait to speculate and create false rumors when they don't know wtf is going on. jon has done nothing except expose big corporations for the greedy b'stards they are and let people vent and voice anonymously.

now, the site and those freedoms are at stake, where are the troll? they're back in their holes or under a bridge waiting for their next unsuspecting victim.

not only are the trolls silent, but there also seems to be a lack of online discussion - outside of the few more popular places i've visited. this could be a direct result of there just being a lawsuit and a hint of a possibility of more to come if anyone says anything bad about a corporation or its employees.

is this what the tolls wanted? for everyone to shut up and do what the neocon corps tell you to do? well, it seems that at the moment, they got their wish.

jon still hasn't said anything publicly - but i'm sure he will. there doesn't seem an urgent need for him to say much more at the moment. i still have only limited contact with him, but as it's been from the start, i can wait. and everyone else will just have to wait, too.

i just find it unbelievable that the people who take advantage of their online freedom of speech and anonymity, and who used it to fling their monkey feces and other beastial droppings at a website who has only ever stood out and stood up for those rights...i just can't believe that those same trolls - or as we say at p2pnet, ANONYMOUS COWARDS - have now nothing positive to say.

he's taking the heat for someone expressing their opinion, or even having presented some facts anonymously. and he doesn't even know who it is. he will never know.

this is david vs goliath on a most basic level and i think now that certain facts are known - enough to form and express a valid opinion - people should be more motivated to band together against abuses of power like this.

it doesn't matter if you don't agree with what jon, or i, or any of the other p2pnet writers report about. the point is freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and the right to anonymity without the threat of a lawsuit. these are YOUR rights, trolls.

get together and save and secure those rights now or they could be lost very soon. this will be a precedent-setting case (in Canada, at least), the outcome of which will affect every message board and news website on the web.

[Scratch]

eclectica, on May 17 2006, 09:28 AM, said:

Also keep in mind that a person's username doesn't mean he represents the site.  For example "SlyckNick" doesn't represent Slyck, nor does anyone for that matter.
Part of this misperception could be because of the very nature of the naming process of the users there.  For example the two founders SlyckRay and SlyckTom have implied with their usernames that anyone with the username containing "Slyck" is representative of the site.  Well I just ran a test by trying to register a username "SlyckTest" and got the message: "Sorry, but this username has been disallowed.".  You see, SlyckNick (aka "Nick Parker") used to be named rocketman05 but changed it around the time "he" became a moderator / news writer at Slyck. 

Nick was a writer at Slyck and a moderator briefly in one section of the site only.

eclectica, on May 17 2006, 09:28 AM, said:

And recently the member lost such status at the same time it was disclosed that the member had gone on to write p2p news for a startup site wirefire.org. 

Incorrect. The wiredfire appointment AFAIK came later

eclectica, on May 17 2006, 09:28 AM, said:

Yet the member retained the name "SlyckNick" for a while after leaving the staff.  That puts Slyck in a bind because they may be tempted to force a name change on the member once the member is no longer part of the staff, yet are also reluctant to be so disruptive as to force a name change.  (In fact I just noticed now that the member has been renamed to "Nick", which must have occured very recently.) 

You can read all about these groundbreaking :roll: and exciting changes here
http://www.slyck.com...pic.php?t=22475

eclectica, on May 17 2006, 09:28 AM, said:

Interestingly the latest person to become administrator on Slyck, SlyckScratch, has the exact same join date of 2005-01-30 as does Nick.

That IS interesting isn't it? We are also from the same country, share the same language, have equal numbers of limbs and both appear to have an interest in P2P. Wow. I wonder how much MORE interesting it gets?. I'm glued to this one. Fascinating

Good to be here folks

[Melvin Smiley]

Now with all that said let me repeat myself,



Any chance we can get a move started to delete all references to Kazaa as a program from all P2P sites? I think it will be worth while if some of us push hard for this.



Lets not let this turn into some kind of Slyck anti-trust thread. OK?

[catflap]

Scratch's irrelavent remarks, on May 18 2006, 11:02 AM, said:

blahblahblah

um what did i just write about? are you thick?

please stay on topic. it's more important than the slyck vs p2pnet vs p2pconsortium CRAP.

no one is interested in more trolls. please get together and stop the foolishness and backbiting of who is who and who was where first. it's stupid and childish and trollish. take it back to you-know-where...wherever that is.

btw, great first post, scratch (notbob?).

[TheBaldingOne]

TheBaldingOne, on May 16 2006, 02:38 PM, said:

It's time the in-fighting and back-biting in our communities stopped and we turned our attention to those who would want to destroy our communities...
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This in-fighting in our communities serves no other purpose than to divide us... We need to stop it all and concentrate on our arguments against DRM, against stricter copyright, against those who would legislate against us.